if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.
i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..
What have the WT org got left to keep the flock on board? The prophetic hopes have run their course and still no Armageddon, not the slightest hint of divine manifestation anywhere. The goal posts forever wandering off the field into the future. The only tactic left is to ratchet up the fear to heighten the tension.
This is how doomsday cults come to their natural end.
yesterday, robert kraft, the owner of the new england patriots, got busted for getting a massage and more.
they say there is another more high profile person who also got busted.. does this stuff upset you that some men have gone into a massage parlor for possibly more than a massage?
?.
Are you horrified that someone goes into a massage parlour: No.
Are you horrified that people put beliefs above the sanctity of life: Yes.
@Tobyjones you are spouting about a subject you have no information on. The understanding is that around 17 people in one thousand are sexually ambiguous. Men with XY chromosomes can have a vagina and there are women who are genetically female i.e with XX chromosomes who are born with a penis. Read up on the children called the Guevadoces of The Dominican Republic. Please don't think in such simplistic terms like a JW or Mr Trump does, the world is more interesting than you imagine.
really watchtower?
jephthah's daughter as an example of what a girl wants to be when she grows up??.
a burnt offering?!!.
What authority have the GB members to dictate to others not to have children?
Russell's marriage was celibate but he showed interest in certain other women. Joseph Frankly Ratherflawed was married but not to his constant female companion. Knorr married late and Franz was too interested in calculating the end of the world.
A cult with a history of nutty leaders.
reading around the subject of lillith, the alledged, rebel first wife of adam, i stumbled upon this link and many others that link the custom of singing babies to sleep as an ancient jewish superstition.. http://www.jeanniemusick.com/lilith-world/lilith-as-the-origin-of-the-lullaby/.
some of the research could probably be argued but looking at it from the wt perspective and mirroring their usual reasoning, i could imagine the following.... ... it appears that the word "lullaby" originates from the the hebrew "lilith-abi", which means "lilith be gone".
jewish mothers used to sing these songs to their babies in bed in hopes that they would be protected from this baby snatching demon called lilith.
I doubt whether the English word lullaby comes from Hebrew when variants already existed in Middle English and cognates are found in Dutch and German indicating its Germanic pedigree. The word has no warning connections only the idea of soothing.
hey this is crazyguy, forgot my password so this is my new name.
anyway be sure to all you new ones that if you post any personal info on this forum or respond to pms asking for email addresses this information maybe able to be used by wt spies to try and find out who you are!
someone has recently pmd me asking for my email address or more accurately to respond to his email address which would give him mine, this maybe an innocent request but this person also has no posting history.
Of course don't divulge personal information to someone you do not trust but I just wonder if we are crediting the Org with more interest in the likes of us than is deserved. Does it really have staff dedicated to fishing for apostates. Where's the benefit for them?
They know there are myriads of ex witnesses, what can they possibly do to counter them apart from routinely demonising apostates in their propaganda? They are never going to be able to stop anti JW information. Monitoring us would cost money and they haven't got enough to go around.
jehovah reminds me of married couples who are having problems who decide to .
have children to improve their lot.. obviuosly jehovah can prevent pregnancy.. 1 samuel 1:5,6 .
but to hannah he gave a double portion because he loved her, .
A good point to argue but the weakness is that it assumes that Jehovah and Eve existed, both characters being drawn from a dodgy book of fiction.
really watchtower?
jephthah's daughter as an example of what a girl wants to be when she grows up??.
a burnt offering?!!.
Yes Xanthippe, just who are these GB idiots trying to fool? Don't they realise that the average JW however zealous, also has a sex drive?
I am getting the impression that the GB now know that the game is up for them but they're still power mad. They know the faithful, like Pavlov's dogs, will respond to their words but to demand that single sisters to remain single is a step too far. Do as we say not do as we do! The GB are out of touch with the real life.
https://youtu.be/s2snv8syqvu.
apparently the jws were still using russell’s pyramid measurements to push the end for 1925 too.
here is the film anyone know it they used pyramidolgy to push the other previous dates like 1918?
Education the Watchtower way:- first have your beliefs then find some facts and make them fit round your beliefs then say they must be true because God cannot lie. (and Jehovah's Witnesses are not capable of a critical evaluation of WT statements)
i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.
after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!
you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.
I confess that at the time of being a witness I didn't really dwell on the nuts and bolts of how Armageddon might take place. I was probably thinking that if Big J was going to do it then he would manage it OK for the faithful. Just writing this makes me feel an idiot, fancy believing such childish nonsense of Armageddon and paradise in the first place.
The trend now is that the GB are no longer allowing for an easy passage into the "new world".
The governing body have introduced a new and sinister element namely a fear of secular authority coming for them with all the force it has.This scenario seems to be based on a drama of aliens (JWs) being sought after and hunted down during wartime. This is creating a raised anxiety level which the GB are milking in their favour, demanding the flock listen even more carefully to what they call "God's organisation".
As the JW religion declines in influence, as with all failing cults they have to ramp up the fear and loyalty to compensate.
And in the meantime its back to the doctors for another anti-depressant............
just finished watching the talk by tony morris on john cedars channel.
sounded to me that he was hedging his bets.
on the one hand he says "this is it" and out of the other he says prophecies are best understood after they are fulfilled.
Bible prophecy is completely useless-- and I stress completely. Since when has it ever helped individuals?
But GB interpretation of useless Bible prophecy is worse than useless, it actually harms people and wastes their lives.
